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Steven Holden's avatar

AI companies created their models by stealing content, biotech firms have patented DNA and things from our own bodies that now no longer belong to us, no one can afford to buy a home so now we have to rent them, everything we do has a surcharge or a delivery fee or some kind of handler that now is the intermediary between us and any product we want… We’re all becoming renters of our own lives. This is techno feudalism. And the sooner everybody wakes up the better we’re gonna be. But it might take a long time.

Nicolas Tudor's avatar

If they were to be transparent all hell would break lose. They use so much data there must be scraped emails and private messages of all kind in there. It’s gotta be top notch thievery, but they’re gonna prepare a clean subset of that, and present it as the full training data set.

The Whispering Candle's avatar

I assume anything I’ve ever written or stored on a cloud or connected server that isn’t behind some firewall has been fair game.

Nicolas Tudor's avatar

Including this comment? So you basically enjoy training an AI that's not yours... Might as well wear a Pixel phone and an Iphone 24/7 with microphone AI features enabled so that you can train both companies at the same time. You can even bring the Alexa spyware with you, the sky is the limit!

The Whispering Candle's avatar

A thing being so, doesn’t mean I invite or enjoy the thing. I use a VPN. I don’t disclose important, personally identifiable information on the public web. I use SOC2 clouds and practice the normal security precautions in storing other data on internet connected devices. My comment is a reflection of assumptions I make about what others are doing.

XxYwise's avatar

This is a serious misunderstanding about generative AI works. Even the art models don't do what you say but certainly the language models do not, and could not.

TheAngryMongoose's avatar

And every marketing moron on LinkedIn is all for this technology. They would rather steal other people’s work than think for themselves. It’s infuriating. If anyone mentions that AI is a job killer and that some people do not use it, those people are vilified. It’s disgusting.

Frank Adams's avatar

I write music. Recently, Spotify updated their Terms of Agreement to state that they can use my content for their own purposes. The draft was more legalese than I just wrote.

I feel that we’re headed to some form of cultural Armageddon.

Arika & The Amoebas's avatar

That is every platform that hosts art. Look at Facebook’s TOS. They all state they can use, repurpose, and profit off of anything you share on their platforms without your permission and without giving you a cent.

Teodora Gaydarova's avatar

WTF. How is that even legal?

AI Governance Lead ⚡'s avatar

Spotify is really getting out of control.

Faizan Sheikh's avatar

Joe I work in a field of regulations, Ethics and Diversity in Ai. Is there a way to discuss this with you and your team? Would love to discuss how I can be any help!

Ane Marie Dau Larsen's avatar

Thank you for allways being an inspiration to us all❤️

Morpho's avatar

This is so critically important!

They are making giant energy demands— the world can’t afford to supply. This is the racket we all must get impolite about. It’s NOT going to make life easier for anyone except the kleptocrats of crapitalism.

Trevor England Q's avatar

ELON MUSK RIPPED ME OFF CALLED ME DOWN RUINED OUR TIMELINE ELON MUSK IS A PIECE OF SH*T CURB STOMP HIM GONE

Arika & The Amoebas's avatar

This is about 3.5 years too late. If you are a visual artist, your art was already scraped, and AI companies have access to the databases internationally. You can’t put the genie back in the bottle NOW!

Now, it’s a different fight, which is who gets to use AI to make art, the public or big companies. Do you think the record labels are looking to protect artists or their own profit margins and eliminate competition while also harnessing the technology to use themselves?

What is really happening is the corporate attempt to steal AI from the same artists whose work was stolen by AI. So, AI corporations steal your work, and then you can’t use it; only powerful corporations can. Hooray!

Here’s where I made your insightful argument 3.5 years ago. We are already in a new era, and you are trying to fight to stop AI from getting a toe in the doorway. Long, long, long past. Now the question is who gets to have access to AI!

https://artofericwayne.com/2025/11/16/ai-slop-vs-ai-art/

Anthony Small's avatar

Good point! The new robber barons, theft of intellectual property… sounds like a class action suit to me!

Aaron James's avatar

No idea what the future holds for all of this but it undoubtedly seems to be moving too fast for us to really grasp and understand. Wishing more people, particularly people in power, were more weary of the potential detriments of the direction we’re heading in

Pasqual Allen's avatar

I agree they should.

Bradley Grower's avatar

@Joseph Gordon-Levitt Their program is to strip us down for parts.

https://wastedink.substack.com/p/the-turds-have-me-on-their-shit-list

Don Knight's avatar

Thanks for bringing this up. Super important. It’s a money grab right now. 😑

Kimberlee's avatar

Needs to be mandated in all 50 states.

They have stolen our data. I for one want any data they’ve stolen of mine deleted, I didn’t give permission and wouldn’t have.

Point is , it is the individuals choice and without that individual’s permission it is theft .

Starter (Star Termopolis)'s avatar

Exactly! They cloud it in their terms of service as if that is the law. It's bullshit. I do not give permission. Never have and if I do, I want compensation.

Mugais Jahangir's avatar

Cloudflare mentioned this some time ago and created this option to block AI bots from taking our content by default. https://www.cnbc.com/2025/07/01/cloudflare-to-block-ai-firms-from-scraping-content-without-consent.html

Noémie's avatar

Thank you for raising awareness! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻